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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 8:01 pm    Titlul subiectului: condensator sau nu? Răspunde cu citat (quote)
mi am montat si eu de curand un ampl si un woofer si am observat ca atunci cand le dau mai tare incepe sa ia din lumina de la faruri..deci imi trebuie condensator.ce se poate intampla daca nu montez condensator?
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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 8:34 pm    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
ti se strica bateria fara condensator
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ca sa dau mai multe detalii...wooferu are 300 rms in 2 ohm iar woofer 400 rms in 2 ohm (ambele kicker)...daca iau condensatoru la 115 ron care este pe be loud este bun..sau trebuie ceva mai scump?
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ti se strica bateria fara condensator


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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 9:10 pm    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
da chiar nu ma ajuta nimeni?sau stati sa radeti unu de celalalt..va rog eu.chiar am nevoie de ajutor
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cum dracu sa nu mori de ras..la asa tampenii
Cu ce sa te ajutam noi???
sa dai o cautare? vrei sa-ti schimb eu cablul sa fie dimensionat corect, vrei sa i-ti verific eu bateria sa vad daca-i buna...?


E ca si cum as zice ...a inceput ploaia...care ma ajuta sa-mi tina si mie umbrela!!

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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 9:48 pm    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
sincer acum..chiar trebuie sa vorbiti toti in sictir..crezi ca daca ma pricepeam mai intrebam?intreb pt ca sunt prost.daca pun un condensator rezolva ceva sau dau banii degeaba?
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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 9:52 pm    Titlul subiectului: Re: condensator sau nu? Răspunde cu citat (quote)
crazymih a scris:
am observat ca atunci cand le dau mai tare incepe sa ia din lumina de la faruri..deci imi trebuie condensator.


In primul si in primul rand concluzia ta e gresita.

Explica mai bine ce aparatura detii... sa stim cu ce avem de lucru. Nimeni nu poate sa ghiceasca ce ai. Nici postul tau nu e prea informativ Sad
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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 10:01 pm    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
ok...amplificator kicker 06ZX300.1R , woofer kicker TCVT122 , Hu Jvc kd-612, pe spate 2 ovale panasonic pe fata Jbl JBL GT5-652 toate puse pe un polo din 2001.kit ul de cabluri este de 1cm parca grosime.cablul stiu ca este un rahat dar asta este si nu as vrea sa-l schimb...acum intrebarea este ce se poate intampla daca le las asa,ce se strica?daca iau condensatorul de care am zis mai sus rezolv ceva?
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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 10:04 pm    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
@ ssrli: scuza-ma ca nu sunt google sa le stiu pe toate corect...eu asa stiam. in loc sa bagi juma de pagina de forum cu " Laughing " mai bine ziceai: bah gogule nu stii nimica, esti praf, nu se intampla aia se intampla cealalta si cu ocazia asta ii raspundeai si omului ce se intampla daca nu pune condensator
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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 10:31 pm    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
crazymih a scris:
ok...amplificator kicker 06ZX300.1R , woofer kicker TCVT122 , Hu Jvc kd-612, pe spate 2 ovale panasonic pe fata Jbl JBL GT5-652 toate puse pe un polo din 2001.kit ul de cabluri este de 1cm parca grosime.cablul stiu ca este un rahat dar asta este si nu as vrea sa-l schimb...acum intrebarea este ce se poate intampla daca le las asa,ce se strica?daca iau condensatorul de care am zis mai sus rezolv ceva?


Fara condensator nu strici nimic.
Verifica in primul rand toate legaturile de la cablajul de alimentare. In mod normal, cu atata putere nu ar trebui sa ai probleme deloc. Condensatorul nu te va ajuta deloc daca tu ai undeva contacte slabe (probabil ca atunci cand il montezi schimbi pozitia unui cablu si ai instant un contact mai bun...ceea ce te poate face sa crezi ca acel condensator a rezolvat problema).
Bateria e cea originala a masinii ? Daca da, 7 ani e cam mult pentru o baterie normala...

purebass...nu face afirmatii fara sa le sustii sau sa ai vreo baza reala. Gandeste-te cata lume se sperie cand citeste postul tau...post care e cat se poate de departe de realitate
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MesajTrimis: Mar Apr 01, 2008 11:46 pm    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
Ma nu radeti de om, cu toate ca a scris ca wooferu are 300 si wooferu are 400.........................normal la puterea asta nu ar trebui sa palpaie farurile, apropo de cati amperi e bateria ta? Eu zic sa incerci cu o baterie mai mare, sau sa incerci condensatorul unui prieten.................sa nu iei si sa te uiti la el dupa aia.
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MesajTrimis: Joi Apr 03, 2008 4:30 am    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
un condensator te ajuta, orice ar fi.

daca zici ca la 300-400w se intampla asta, eu zic ca mai degraba schimbi bateria, deoarece tot te va lasa in scurt timp.

daca asculti muzica tare mai ales cand nu ai motorul pornit, un condensator iar este de ajutor prin simplul fapt ca uniformizeaza fluctuatiile de curent si bateria se va descarca mai greu.

sper sa faci o alegere corecta
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Audi_A6 a scris:
un condensator te ajuta, orice ar fi.

daca zici ca la 300-400w se intampla asta, eu zic ca mai degraba schimbi bateria, deoarece tot te va lasa in scurt timp.

daca asculti muzica tare mai ales cand nu ai motorul pornit, un condensator iar este de ajutor prin simplul fapt ca uniformizeaza fluctuatiile de curent si bateria se va descarca mai greu.

sper sa faci o alegere corecta


Condensatorul nu iti va proteja bateria nici macar atunci cand e oprit motorul. El tot are nevoie sa se incarce.
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MesajTrimis: Joi Apr 03, 2008 8:28 pm    Titlul subiectului: Răspunde cu citat (quote)
asa se intampla cand vrei totul mura-n gura fara sa aprofundezi absolut nimic
niciodata nu se stie ce e in mintea celui care scrie,unii scriu si de plictiseala,altii mai fac si misto
Daca esti destul de paralel afla ca cele cateva mici indicatii pe un forum nu te vor ajuta prea mult,fara putin efort nu realizezi nimic,daca crezi ca e f complicat si te depaseste,e bine sa mai apelezi si la altii
cateva sute de mii in plus sau in minus nu a saracit pe nimeni,dar stricaciuni s-au produs destule din neatentie

ssrli e mai modest,nu i-a spus ca spune prostii ca poate da de unu ca R.. Confused si-i scoate ochii

Revenind la subiect,eu am vazut playere cu difuri (ambele cotetze) la care palpaiau farurile
S-a rezolvat prin alte cabluri suficient de groase corespunzator cu lungimea,atat la alimentare cat si la boxe
La tine e posibil ca si bateria sa nu mai mentina curentul in sarcina si scade prea mult tensiunea incat se observa la becuri
Daca ai totul facut cu cap,nu ar trebui sa pui condensator ,am vazut si instalatii de peste 1kw doar cu baterie si alternator bune fara sa faca scheme
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